more brush this is +Up to Wpoly

I added a texture to the wad so you can make a transition between the grass and sand, but as stated S3B, this is not necessarily needed.

This is precisely the difficulty of this contest where you have to find a good compromise between appearance of the map and wpolys.

But all your creations are here to prove that you are great mappers and that you will necessarily get there.




Download here the new 17bsolstice wad file.

Project will try

I dont garantee I'll have the time to do something good but i'll try ^^


I just have one problem with a rule :

[*]Map must have been optimized with 1200 wpolys maximum

I guess you mean 12.000 polys ? You forgot one zero ?

Ok ok i'll try not to make my usual "huge beautifull but unplayable map"

Chapo is so necessary to add new texture to the site wad? mappers can do unlimited ways to made a good combination with textures , for example my start map....

it is this very cute looking, ChaosMedia.

I also am going to start but I will not go.

@Projec : Welcome, and it's really 1200 WPOLYS ^^

Happy to see a french mapper Project

Yes, 1 french, but where are the other french mappers ???? oO

de_airstrip.wad?

Someone mentioned a texture name being duplicated in 17bsolstice.wad - there's another one called OUT_CAC2 that has the same problem. Can I also suggest adding a copy of the !mtxwater texture but without the ! at the start of the name? This would allow the texture to be used without the engine adding the usual water distortion effect.

If I know, original wads are:
ajawad.wad
cached.wad
chateau.wad
cstraining.wad
cstrike.wad
cs_747.wad
cs_assault.wad
cs_bdog.wad
cs_cbble.wad
cs_dust.wad
cs_havana.WAD
cs_office.wad
decals.wad
de_airstrip.wad
de_aztec.wad
de_piranesi.wad
de_storm.wad
de_vertigo.wad
itsitaly.wad
n0th1ng.wad
prodigy.wad
torntextures.wad
tswad.wad
cached.wad
decals.wad
fonts.wad
gfx.wad
halflife.wad
liquids.wad
spraypaint.wad
xeno.wad

Admins: make decisions about the wad's soon. If you let everyone submit custom textures, you might as well allow custom .wad's in general. What's the point of moving textures out of a custom .wad, submitting it here to be finally added in the 17b .wad?

Also, please note that there's a HUGE difference between the workload of the following gametypes:

Defuse - requires a good, well tested layout, would require lots of debugging as well.
Hostage Rescue - same as defuse.
Fight Yard - most of the time, this is a small map. Most of the time it's a symmetrical map. Requires far less effort than de/cs.
Gungame - same as fy.
Aim map - same as fy.

What I mean is that de/cs should already be in favor above the other gametypes, so consider leaving these out or have gametypes that are about the same effort to make.

We know that fy/gg/aim maps are easier to create.The mappers who choose fy/aim/gg maps must create a beautiful map, with excellent gameplay, etc...

I agree. What stops me (or anyone else) from using any textures I want and then post them here to be added to the wad?

Can I create map only with original cs wad's without your given wad?

You cannot do that whitout the 17bsolstice.wad.

Also, I want the rule of max 1200 w_poly to be followed strictly. Meaning that maps having more than 1200 should be disqualified immediately, no matter how 'good' it is.

Please provide examples of said themes. Having a sun in your skybox could already be related to summer. Be more specific.

No , texture of banner and button I'll use , but textures that they give I can't use.

They're not forcing you to use ONLY their .wad. It's just that you need that .wad for the banner. You can use the default .wad's with the default textures that comes installed with CS.

im in
Nick:Berreta

ok, so:

Here is the last version of 17bsolstice.wad.

I have only changed the OUT_CAC2 texture name to avoid problems.

This wad won't change anymore.

You must now use it, as it. All future demands for adding or modifying a texture will be rejected.

Theme is summer, sunny, solstice, or anything else in relation with sun.

Using our wad can be a good idea because textures have been choosen for this theme. You can use other textures if you want ... but perhaps won't it be a good idea to use only dust textures ...

The only obligation is to put our banner and button on your map as indicated in the rules.

WPolys are limited to 1200. A map with 1201 WPolys will be disqualified.

Fy_, gg_ or aim_ maps are easier than de_ or cs_ maps. We know that and our judgment will of course take that into account.

Now you have enough elements to make great maps and i know you will succeed.

Happy mapping!

There are two types of polygons in half life:

1- wpolys (world polygons)

2- epolys (entity polygons)

Wpolys are assigned to the "square" that the HL engine divides the map. (not the number of squares that is built)
Epolys polygons are assigned to entities. (Model's, guns etc etc)

The command "r_speeds 1" serves to tell you the amount of polygons per second that the engine of half life is to draw (render speeds).

The plates are able to draw 3d x polygons per second.
When a map of r_speeds logically abused (polygons), the plates do not come 3d, and noticed the lag (sobs).

Now the Epolys Wpolys and measured with the command above. You should write to the console counter-strike:

sv_cheats 1
r_speeds 1

Values ​​appear in the console, you must traverse all areas of your map and be antentos to the values ​​that mark (wPoly in this case).

Formerly, graphics cards not tolerate Wpolys read over 1200, this occurred because the information Lag took more milliseconds to process, but ... formerly.

In 2012 the new 3D accelerator graphics cards, this command is useful but not as important as it was before (in 2006 when it launched the cs 1.6).

The need to reduce wpolys comes from the need to professionalize the map, reduce information processing time and therefore give you more gameplay.

But if the respawns the map, for example, wpolys are too high. Does this affect the gameplay? Is relative, since what is really interested in the "hot spots" (direct confrontation) the wpolys are low for the info faster. I think the "pros" never attacked a base when you should really worry about that and we'll forth and they plant the C4 on bombsite.

The Wpolys is reduced by two main methods:

Converting complex solids in an entity (entities produce no increase in wpolys, obviously): func_wall

Avoid creating unnecessary divisions in solids (cutting tool).

I think he understood.


PS: And do not press both organizers of the contest! LOL!

Yes.

[T]incho

I am in. =)

I was going to make a fight yard map, but after reading this... I think I'll make a defuser map.

What worries me is whether I will come in time

PS: [T]incho wellcome to 17buddies (another argie... mhhh it gets interesting )

Remind to pm your email

May be developer 1? and r_speeds 1

Can I use custom version of ZHLT ? I want use Custom version of ZHLT by Vluzacn.

No, Sorry.

Only Standard wads and 17bsolstice.

No custom wad allowed.

Rules are now established at 99% ( 100 % for wads )

No more request accepted.



And ... GOOD LUCK

No, it isn't wad file, it is Compile Tools. Better Compile Tools. Better shadows, lights and more

ZHLT, Batch compiler, Orbital Batch Compiler, etc... all are allowed

this is compilers include zhlt wad in map!

zhlt.wad contais only special textures as null, bevel, sky.
I think it should be allowed?
And also VHLT are the best compiling tools for cs 1.6.

I've posted the contest in a Bulgarian forum.

Special textures are included in 17bsolstice.wad

Click to view attachment

I was sure, but I ment that it won't be nothing extra, so the mappers may use it, but I don't say...

"Mutantis Mutandis"

Thanks for the correction

When contest will be finished, i will prepare a bed and food for you on 17buddies in order to prepare tutos

Chapo you are varmint?

Not at all

I said bed and food, not latex nor sextoys !

i joke

Contest posted and made sticky on cstrike-planet.com (hihi, sometimes I love the perks of being a mod)

Great thanks fr33pr0d.

Happy to see that great communities of mappers and great mapping websites are able to gather around our contest.

Bad news:

[T]incho just told me that for family reasons, he can no more participate to contest.

I hope i's not too serious and whishes him good luck.

Come see us as soon as you can, you will be welcome.

What about sounds, models and sprites ? Are we allowed to put some in the map ?

No models, no sounds, no sprites and no textures....What a beautifull map !!!


OF COURSE YOU CAN !!!!

All models, sprites, sound and sky are allowed

By 'all' do you mean just the default Half-Life/Counter-Strike ones?

I think he means any, whatever you want

Yes.

Amigos Chapo y S3B:

Most likely, I need to build a model for the map (because I'm also in 3D modeling, lol ).

Therefore, it is likely that my map contestant, have 1 or 2 exclusive models, which obviously will not be those that come by default with the game.

Will include everything in the rar (or zip) along with a. Rar, just hope not to overdo with the 5 mb allowed