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DigitalBrain
post 20/08/2017 - 13:50:26 |   Post #81
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- Intel® Xeon® CPU E5-1620 @ 3.60GHz
- 64 Go RAM
- 2 To HD
I don't know how popular this site is, but is it really needs 64GB of RAM and Xeon? May be the best way to save this site is purchase VPS with 16GB of RAM & 1TB HDD? It's strange that old project like this hasn't own cheap physical server, you definitly don't need powerful Xeon for storing files. In nowadays even personal computers have 3Tb+ HDD, even my four year old pc (IMG:http://forum.17buddies.rocks/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Secondly, is this site use background Zip compression of non-popular files to save the space?

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Arkshine
post 20/08/2017 - 14:14:01 |   Post #82
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Yeah, it's overpowered, EatingPizza is not here to explain, but if I had to guess, it's because with OVH you can have only one additional disk per VPS (max 500 Go). If you want more, you have no choice to get a dedicated server which starts with 2 To.

Anyway, we might have found someone who can freely host the website.
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post 20/08/2017 - 15:39:03 |   Post #83
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QUOTE (Arkshine @ 20/08/2017 - 15:14:01) *
Yeah, it's overpowered, EatingPizza is not here to explain, but if I had to guess, it's because with OVH you can have only one additional disk per VPS (max 500 Go). If you want more, you have no choice to get a dedicated server which starts with 2 To.

Anyway, we might have found someone who can freely host the website.


Maybe you should use cloud services like Amazon S3 for storing content files, it's not so expensive and lets you use cheapest VPS.
For ex. Amazon prices (https://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/?nc1=h_ls) are:
$0.026 for storring 1GB/month
$0.0044 for 10k requests
$0.090 for 1GB traffic from cloud, first 1GB/month is free
So, if we imagine that you currently need 500gb space, 1M requests for downloading and 50Gb content traffic- it will costs 13$ + 0.44$ + 4.5$ ~ 18$/month.
Then just purchase cheapest VPS. Another good point is you will pay only for used capacity, not for all HDD.
I have a look at your OVH hosting provider site and it have some cloud solutions, at least for storing files. I guess this project is still making some litle money from ads, so maybe this solution is not so bad? (IMG:http://forum.17buddies.rocks/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post 20/08/2017 - 19:49:35 |   Post #84
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It will be very complicated to use the cloud to store the maps as the code has not been developed for that possibility.

All paths are "hard drive" coded and unrar/unzip/zip/check/ utilities won't work on the cloud.

This solution will certainly be possible, but only for backup purpose.

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post 20/08/2017 - 19:54:26 |   Post #85
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Yea, this seems to be an idea to considerate, but this doesn't change the fact that the community is, unfortunately, kind of dead and no one donates.
At this point, we have no choice to rely on someone else to freely host the website and hoping that someone will take over 17B to revive the community and manage it.
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DigitalBrain
post 21/08/2017 - 13:43:27 |   Post #86
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QUOTE (Chapo @ 20/08/2017 - 21:49:35) *
It will be very complicated to use the cloud to store the maps as the code has not been developed for that possibility.

All paths are "hard drive" coded and unrar/unzip/zip/check/ utilities won't work on the cloud.

This solution will certainly be possible, but only for backup purpose.

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As far as I understood, you have not bad guest user traffic, so can you convert it to some money by Ads?
Maybe the community is currently dead, but the main goal is to save this site as working software. So you need to optimize spending money or/and preserve your code and DB at public github or bitbucket, zip and upload content to torrent and/or free/cheap cloud.
I think it is still possible to find new young owners, who are passionate about HL games, even if he will decide to change the whole project and domain name, that will be better case, than death. There are a lot of such sites about CS/HL, so it seems the theme is still actual.

Why it shouldn't work? Storring in the cloud is just simple put|get|delete request and php works with them same way. The best way is making local 1-5 Gb cache and have a copy of popular files at local hdd to minimize requests to the cloud, so you will pay a few cents less (IMG:http://forum.17buddies.rocks/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Here is official Amazon S3 wrapper library for php http://docs.aws.amazon.com/aws-sdk-php/v3/...am-wrapper.html
In any case you should search new owners outside of 17b community too increase the odds.

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Chapo
post 21/08/2017 - 16:13:50 |   Post #87
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Everybody use adblock on websites, including 17b althought we don't use intrusive ads (popup, popunder, ..).

Ads represent only 293 € since January 2015, even not 10 € /month... I won't buy a new car with that (IMG:http://forum.17buddies.rocks/style_emoticons/default/icon_ane.gif)
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post 21/08/2017 - 17:27:34 |   Post #88
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Hello,

Pour l'instant, il y à des propositions concrètes ?

La personne qui apportera son aide financière pourra proposer de déménager le site vers une autre machine ?

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post 21/08/2017 - 19:47:55 |   Post #89
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QUOTE (Chapo @ 21/08/2017 - 18:13:50) *
Everybody use adblock on websites, including 17b althought we don't use intrusive ads (popup, popunder, ..).

Ads represent only 293 € since January 2015, even not 10 € /month... I won't buy a new car with that (IMG:http://forum.17buddies.rocks/style_emoticons/default/icon_ane.gif)


Heh, I thought out neighbors in rich western EU definitly should make at least 25-50$/month on this site, but... (IMG:http://forum.17buddies.rocks/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Hmm, you can asking users for adding to adblock exceptions, but this is unlikely... (By the way uBlock is much better (IMG:http://forum.17buddies.rocks/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )
What about selling ads place in own banners system and direct sale of them? Under certain conditions AdBlock cann't block such ads, without blocking useful content. ... links/ads for thematic sites, promotion cs/hl servers, top list of the donators at the main page and so on...
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post 30/08/2017 - 00:03:11 |   Post #90
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https://www.google.com/intl/en/drive/ is one way and it how you backup the files your able to zip up to 1 gig files for download .setup 3 or 4 different accounts break it down in to different section like maps for the games like cs css dod dods ect... each account your allowed 15 gig each and its free or like livewire said try valve it would be in there best interest due to them selling the games and contact Gameservers or Nuclear fallout due too them host servers for the games or rent one of there vps servers and upload all the file and they will take care of the security.there is alot of decent people out there that still play the games that are willing to help but at the same time be careful 17buddies is a well established site and a great way to make money so there is alot of people will take advantage of your problem.if you need and help on storage let me know you can message me or contact me at http://tdc-gaming.site.nfoservers.com/
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