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Chapo
post 03/03/2015 - 16:28:17 |   Post #1
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The next April 20 17Buddies will close. The server on which the site is hosted will not be renewed and without any alternative, we can not continue to provide the CS maps as we have done for over 11 fantastic years. It was a great adventure, but it will stop here. Our only option for continuing is to find free php/mysql hosting server able to accommodate 400GB of maps and support 2,000 users/day. If you think you have a solution or that you can help 17Buddies, please post in this topic urgently.





Le 20 avril prochain, 17Buddies va cesser d'exister. Le serveur sur lequel nous sommes hébergés ne sera pas renouvelé et sans autre solution nous ne pourrons pas continuer à vous fournir les maps CS comme nous l'avons fait pendant ces fantastiques 11 dernières années. La seule solution pour pouvoir continuer est de trouver un serveur php/mysql gratuit capable d'acceuillir les 400Go de maps CS et de supporter nos 2000 visiteurs uniques quotidiens. Si vous pensez avoir une solution qui puisse nous aider, merci de poster rapidement dans ce topic.
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post 03/03/2015 - 16:28:27 |   Post #2
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. I will help those who wants to create a new 17b site, if I agree with this site (location, type, principles...)
. Don't ask us for downloading whole maps and screens for private use. We won't allow it.
. Post here, only If you can help! (IMG:http://forum.17buddies.rocks/style_emoticons/default/icon_jap.gif)
. Don't post "RIP" or "Too bad" messages here. We don't need them and this will unnecessarily pollute this topic
. Think to update your mail on your profile. If we find a solution after april, 20, we will mail you (IMG:http://forum.17buddies.rocks/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post 03/03/2015 - 16:48:06 |   Post #3
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post 03/03/2015 - 18:02:50 |   Post #4
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Note that if anyone is interested to continue 17buddies, I am willing to help, but all the necessary steps for the server and authorizations must be carried out by him.
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post 03/03/2015 - 20:01:23 |   Post #5
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C'est une triste nouvelle (IMG:http://forum.17buddies.rocks/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

J'ai un hébergement chez o2switch.fr, tout est en illimité mais ca reste du serveur mutualisé. Si ca vous interesse tout de même, dites le moi.
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post 03/03/2015 - 22:19:11 |   Post #6
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Le serveur semble interressant pour le prix. A voir ce que ça vaut vraiment avec notre débit mais bon, à noter et mettre dans les futures possibilités.

Merci du partage toots. (IMG:http://forum.17buddies.rocks/style_emoticons/default/icon_jap.gif)
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post 04/03/2015 - 02:13:28 |   Post #7
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Got +400GB free space, to host your maps.

Dedicated Server Info:

OS: Debian 7 Wheezy
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post 04/03/2015 - 07:47:43 |   Post #8
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A part au début, il y a de cela plusieurs années. Je n'ai jamais eu de problème qui ne viennent de scripts qui surchargeaient le serveur, donc de ma faute. Par contre nous n'avons pas autant de fréquentation, c'est à tester. Concernant le prix, je peux trés bien vous créer un sous domaine avec acces ftp et bdd sur mon compte, ne serait ce que pour tester, si vous souhaitez avoir votre propre compte par la suite.

Je reste à votre disposition.

PS: Le mieux serait de traiter le sujet en MP afin de ne pas polluer ce topic.

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post 04/03/2015 - 11:15:33 |   Post #9
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The future site manager must undertake to always ensure that the maps and screens are made available to all and for free.

Maps downloads will not be subject to condition (sms, sponsorized links, etc ...)

17Buddies is free and will remain so. It is the memory of HL maps and as such, they will always be freely available.

I have a backup of all maps and screens on an external private server, so all will stiil be available.
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post 04/03/2015 - 17:02:42 |   Post #10
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QUOTE (Chapo @ 04/03/2015 - 07:15:33) *
The future site manager must undertake to always ensure that the maps and screens are made available to all and for free.

Maps downloads will not be subject to condition (sms, sponsorized links, etc ...)

17Buddies is free and will remain so. It is the memory of HL maps and as such, they will always be freely available.

I have a backup of all maps and screens on an external private server, so all will stiil be available.




chapo S3B ... try this is what we use aki nois ... hostinger.com.br
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post 04/03/2015 - 17:49:28 |   Post #11
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Hope 17b stay french (IMG:http://forum.17buddies.rocks/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post 05/03/2015 - 10:21:26 |   Post #12
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Don´t use Hostinger .. The provider constantly locks the Websapce because the Serverload is to high. Why you dont use a Small vServer from OVH? http://www.ovh.com/fr/vps/vps-classic.xml
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post 05/03/2015 - 11:45:07 |   Post #13
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Not enough disk space (100Go where we need at least 400Go).

And furthermore, we don't want to pay anymore for 17b. So it must be a free solution or someone else must pay for the server (IMG:http://forum.17buddies.rocks/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post 05/03/2015 - 20:06:05 |   Post #14
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How's about bandwith peak and average traffic per month?
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post 05/03/2015 - 20:20:54 |   Post #15
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Acidounet gave me server datas:

Pross Intel® Core™ i5 CPU 760 @ 2.80GHz
Memoire 8 Go but 16 would be better
1 To HD

And we have a dedicated Apache server for query.

For bandwidth and average traffic only Acidounet can answer but with 2000 unique visitors /day and almost 7Go of downloads/day, you can have a little idea of necessary bandwidth.
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Ganryu
post 05/03/2015 - 21:11:06 |   Post #16
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Hello there. I apologize if this seems a bit out of place, but I happen to be a user from another site called GameBanana (some of you may have heard of the site), and I have a small proposition for you folks over here at 17Buddies. Although I'm not part of the administration team there, I would like to at least bring it to this site's attention that GameBanana has more than enough space to handle all of the content currently provided by this site, so the content provided here could be migrated over there in the event that 17Buddies is no longer accessible. Should 17Buddies go down after April 20th, I am more than willing to assist with uploading the content from this site over there in order to ensure that the content remains accessible to everyone, and I might even be able to get a few other members to assist with migrating the content over there as well.
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post 05/03/2015 - 21:22:05 |   Post #17
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QUOTE (Chapo @ 05/03/2015 - 12:45:07) *
So it must be a free solution or someone else must pay for the server (IMG:http://forum.17buddies.rocks/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


I`m sure some of us won`t mind donating a little each month if a cheap server and admin can be found.
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post 05/03/2015 - 22:25:20 |   Post #18
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LiveWire=> I know that , and you're one of our best donators. But donations are not regular income and are subject to variations that are not acceptable to rent a server.

Ganryu => 17b will never be given to Gb for multiple reasons. But, be sure that if we don't find a solution with a web server and a website, all 17b's maps will still remain accessible to everyone.

We are the HL memory and we always will. We will continue to make available our maps to the gaming community.
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post 06/03/2015 - 01:47:06 |   Post #19
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Fair enough. I just thought I'd propose the idea of posting the maps there as well when I heard about this site possibly going down, but I'll leave just leave it at that. Take care, and good luck.

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Sajin Gaming
post 06/03/2015 - 07:39:03 |   Post #20
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I've been afraid of increasing of data and traffic cause trouble for 17buddies.

Suggestions

1.Separate maps for HL1(Goldsrc) based games from later engine based one.Maps for Goldsrc are basically small size and later ones are very big.Archive of old maps is very precious,people can get newer ones everywhere.
2.Replace duplicate map with redirection.If there are same map,ideally binary equal,you should replace maps which derived from original with link to it.
3.Delete extremely low quality map.17buddies contains many low quality maps.Many of them are nearly worthless.However,I think deleting need significant vote of multiple higher level users.
4.Get rid common files from each archive. ex:as_riverside.wad,as_tundra.wad
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post 06/03/2015 - 09:07:52 |   Post #21
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Why won't you incorporate advertisements to get some revenue? Google Adsense or Chikita are worth a try at the very least.

GameBanana does it, so does gamemaps. Don't see any reason, not to incorporate ads, if they keep this ship afloat.
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post 06/03/2015 - 09:20:25 |   Post #22
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send PM message pirvate
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post 06/03/2015 - 17:28:23 |   Post #23
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@ chapo, take a look at http://www.kimsufi.com/fr/ for cheap Dedicated Servers

KS-3
Core™ i5-750
4c / 4t
2.67 GHz+
16 Go Ram
2 To Discspace
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14,99 €
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post 06/03/2015 - 18:41:36 |   Post #24
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QUOTE (Chapo @ 03/03/2015 - 17:28:17) *
The next April 20 17Buddies will close. The server on which the site is hosted will not be renewed and without any alternative, we can not continue to provide the CS maps as we have done for over 11 fantastic years. It was a great adventure, but it will stop here. Our only option for continuing is to find free php/mysql hosting server able to accommodate 400GB of maps and support 2,000 users/day. If you think you have a solution or that you can help 17Buddies, please post in this topic urgently.





Le 20 avril prochain, 17Buddies va cesser d'exister. Le serveur sur lequel nous sommes hébergés ne sera pas renouvelé et sans autre solution nous ne pourrons pas continuer à vous fournir les maps CS comme nous l'avons fait pendant ces fantastiques 11 dernières années. La seule solution pour pouvoir continuer est de trouver un serveur php/mysql gratuit capable d'acceuillir les 400Go de maps CS et de supporter nos 2000 visiteurs uniques quotidiens. Si vous pensez avoir une solution qui puisse nous aider, merci de poster rapidement dans ce topic.

I have an idea, let's start to download all the maps that we can site and then post them on other pages of maps counter strike
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post 06/03/2015 - 18:59:31 |   Post #25
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This is no Solution. 17Buddies need a cheap Server to keep the service upright.
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post 07/03/2015 - 08:00:05 |   Post #26
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Our only option for continuing is to find free php/mysql hosting server able to accommodate 400GB of maps and support 2,000 users/day. If you think you have a ....


Other options are not allowed (IMG:http://forum.17buddies.rocks/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post 07/03/2015 - 08:02:56 |   Post #27
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I'm willing to donate 17B up to fully one month charge if you continue site in some form,but all 3 methods don't accept from my country.Anyway,you should not host CS:GO maps.
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post 07/03/2015 - 08:24:18 |   Post #28
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hey, in Germany is there a Sponsoring-Forum for Root and Gameserver ! http://www.sponsor-board.de/
not in France ?
here my Root (IMG:http://forum.17buddies.rocks/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) http://maps.old-school-boys.de/maps/ for dod and dod:s maps is enough GB .
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post 08/03/2015 - 15:31:14 |   Post #29
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Chapo, I'm working on something and I think we may be able to take over your site with all the qualifications you require. Let me get back to you as soon as I get a response from my provider.
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post 08/03/2015 - 20:22:21 |   Post #30
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Hello Chapo, please contact root@multiplay.ru. They are can provide you all necessary resources.
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post 08/03/2015 - 22:42:08 |   Post #31
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Please:

. Don't post links to paying providers. This does not suit us.
. Don't post links to payed servers, for limited time. This does not suit either.
. Send a copy to your PM to S3B (I'm not often there)
. I will prefer a solution where someone continue to maintain website (and that it committed for years) and where I help him to transfert the site and database.

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post 09/03/2015 - 13:57:06 |   Post #32
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Chapo also there another person ready to provide the following resources:
2TB and Internet channel 1 Gbit / s. His contacts admin@x2k.ru
The same is also true the sentence above.
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post 09/03/2015 - 17:56:54 |   Post #33
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@everyone.

For convenience, I would prefer to keep 17B in france, with a french admin (better for understanding).

But if we have no other solution, I will accept foreign admin with pleasure.
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post 09/03/2015 - 18:07:48 |   Post #34
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Details of disk usage:

Maps:
. hl1: 98Go
. hl2: 214 Go
. csgo: 38 Go

Screens (screens+thumbs+backup):
. hl1: 5.40 Go
. hl2: 4.82 Mo
. csgo: 360 Mo

Wads:
. hl1: 9Go

Models:
. hl1: 550 Mo

Misc Screenshots other than mainscreens:
10 Go

wwwroot (code+templates+graphics):
. 90Mo

forum (code+templates+graphics):
. 70Mo


mySQL:
. 17b2: 430Mo
. Forum: 295Mo (with members table)
. Misc: 5Mo


Enjoy (IMG:http://forum.17buddies.rocks/style_emoticons/default/icon_jap.gif)
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post 09/03/2015 - 18:22:02 |   Post #35
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Hi Chapo, it's Jon Higgins here from GameBanana.

I know you have previously stated that 17B would never be given to us, however it would be a great shame to loose a site like yours and I am sure many people would miss it.

It would probably be too hard for us to buy 17buddies as we are very busy with our current websites, as well as legal issues surrounding your ported content. However if you or the staff here are interested in continuing to run the site we may be able to take over the technical and monetary side of 17B by hosting it on one of our 10 high end servers. Thus allowing you guys to focus all your time on the community.

Alternatively if you no longer want to work on the site we would be interested to buy the database and files off you for a one off lump sum.

If there is anything we can do to help you guys out, or if you have any other propositions please let us know either on here or by sending an email to Jon@machinefloor.com.

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Hi (IMG:http://forum.17buddies.rocks/style_emoticons/default/icon_kimouss.gif) and (IMG:http://forum.17buddies.rocks/style_emoticons/default/icon_jap.gif)
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post 09/03/2015 - 18:37:40 |   Post #37
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Thank you Jon,

I'd never have thought reading such a message one day, but I'm truly touched by your message. (IMG:http://forum.17buddies.rocks/style_emoticons/default/icon_ami.gif)

We will consider your proposal with all team members.

Best regards,
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QUOTE (Chapo @ 03/03/2015 - 16:28:17) *
The next April 20 17Buddies will close. The server on which the site is hosted will not be renewed and without any alternative, we can not continue to provide the CS maps as we have done for over 11 fantastic years. It was a great adventure, but it will stop here. Our only option for continuing is to find free php/mysql hosting server able to accommodate 400GB of maps and support 2,000 users/day. If you think you have a solution or that you can help 17Buddies, please post in this topic urgently.


Hi, I think that we can help.. we can offer dedicated server with 2x2TB raid (france location)
if you are interested, we can continue on email or here on pm (IMG:http://forum.17buddies.rocks/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

p.s. offer is from game hosting, that exist over 8 years (IMG:http://forum.17buddies.rocks/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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Chapo, our hosting is with unlimited domains, bandwidth, transfer (GB), MySQL databases and disk space (GB) and currently we are allowed website connections of 50 at a time which translates to 1200 a day, but we can increase that to 2400 a day. We can do a sub domain with ftp access free to 17buddies. If this fits your needs contact me at hellskitchen_dod@yahoo.com. I hate to lose such a resource as you have provided over the years. Let's not let this site die.

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Chapo, I manage servers for a very large gaming community. When it comes to community resources like yours, I want to keep as many resources available as possible. We have a pretty considerable amount of resources available due to our size. I would be interested in re-hosting your site as a copy, if you have a team willing to admin for it. I have used this website for downloads before, but I have not been an active community member, so I understand if you may have concerns.

Please contact me at the email I registered with my forum profile if you are interested.

Thanks, SoJa.
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