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Posted by: Chapo 03/03/2015 - 16:28:17

The next April 20 17Buddies will close. The server on which the site is hosted will not be renewed and without any alternative, we can not continue to provide the CS maps as we have done for over 11 fantastic years. It was a great adventure, but it will stop here. Our only option for continuing is to find free php/mysql hosting server able to accommodate 400GB of maps and support 2,000 users/day. If you think you have a solution or that you can help 17Buddies, please post in this topic urgently.





Le 20 avril prochain, 17Buddies va cesser d'exister. Le serveur sur lequel nous sommes hébergés ne sera pas renouvelé et sans autre solution nous ne pourrons pas continuer à vous fournir les maps CS comme nous l'avons fait pendant ces fantastiques 11 dernières années. La seule solution pour pouvoir continuer est de trouver un serveur php/mysql gratuit capable d'acceuillir les 400Go de maps CS et de supporter nos 2000 visiteurs uniques quotidiens. Si vous pensez avoir une solution qui puisse nous aider, merci de poster rapidement dans ce topic.

Posted by: Chapo 03/03/2015 - 16:28:27

. I will help those who wants to create a new 17b site, if I agree with this site (location, type, principles...)
. Don't ask us for downloading whole maps and screens for private use. We won't allow it.
. Post here, only If you can help! icon_jap.gif
. Don't post "RIP" or "Too bad" messages here. We don't need them and this will unnecessarily pollute this topic
. Think to update your mail on your profile. If we find a solution after april, 20, we will mail you wink.gif

Posted by: Chapo 03/03/2015 - 16:48:06

*** Reserved for later use ***

Posted by: Chapo 03/03/2015 - 18:02:50

Note that if anyone is interested to continue 17buddies, I am willing to help, but all the necessary steps for the server and authorizations must be carried out by him.

Posted by: Toots 03/03/2015 - 20:01:23

C'est une triste nouvelle sad.gif

J'ai un hébergement chez o2switch.fr, tout est en illimité mais ca reste du serveur mutualisé. Si ca vous interesse tout de même, dites le moi.

Posted by: Chapo 03/03/2015 - 22:19:11

Le serveur semble interressant pour le prix. A voir ce que ça vaut vraiment avec notre débit mais bon, à noter et mettre dans les futures possibilités.

Merci du partage toots. icon_jap.gif

Posted by: TjaardA 04/03/2015 - 02:13:28

Got +400GB free space, to host your maps.

Dedicated Server Info:

OS: Debian 7 Wheezy
Architecture: 64bit
Country: Paris, FR
RAM: 8GB
CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 3.20Ghz + IPMI
HDD: 2x 1TB HW RAID 1
IP: 3
Bandwidth: 1Gbps (Unlimited)

Posted by: Toots 04/03/2015 - 07:47:43

A part au début, il y a de cela plusieurs années. Je n'ai jamais eu de problème qui ne viennent de scripts qui surchargeaient le serveur, donc de ma faute. Par contre nous n'avons pas autant de fréquentation, c'est à tester. Concernant le prix, je peux trés bien vous créer un sous domaine avec acces ftp et bdd sur mon compte, ne serait ce que pour tester, si vous souhaitez avoir votre propre compte par la suite.

Je reste à votre disposition.

PS: Le mieux serait de traiter le sujet en MP afin de ne pas polluer ce topic.

Posted by: Chapo 04/03/2015 - 11:15:33

The future site manager must undertake to always ensure that the maps and screens are made available to all and for free.

Maps downloads will not be subject to condition (sms, sponsorized links, etc ...)

17Buddies is free and will remain so. It is the memory of HL maps and as such, they will always be freely available.

I have a backup of all maps and screens on an external private server, so all will stiil be available.

Posted by: CHAPOLIN COLORADO 04/03/2015 - 17:02:42

QUOTE (Chapo @ 04/03/2015 - 07:15:33) *
The future site manager must undertake to always ensure that the maps and screens are made available to all and for free.

Maps downloads will not be subject to condition (sms, sponsorized links, etc ...)

17Buddies is free and will remain so. It is the memory of HL maps and as such, they will always be freely available.

I have a backup of all maps and screens on an external private server, so all will stiil be available.




chapo S3B ... try this is what we use aki nois ... hostinger.com.br

Posted by: S3B 04/03/2015 - 17:49:28

icon_jap.gif

Hope 17b stay french wink.gif

Posted by: Michl 05/03/2015 - 10:21:26

Don´t use Hostinger .. The provider constantly locks the Websapce because the Serverload is to high. Why you dont use a Small vServer from OVH? http://www.ovh.com/fr/vps/vps-classic.xml

Posted by: Chapo 05/03/2015 - 11:45:07

Not enough disk space (100Go where we need at least 400Go).

And furthermore, we don't want to pay anymore for 17b. So it must be a free solution or someone else must pay for the server wink.gif

Posted by: Zielscheibe 05/03/2015 - 20:06:05

How's about bandwith peak and average traffic per month?

Posted by: Chapo 05/03/2015 - 20:20:54

Acidounet gave me server datas:

Pross Intel® Core™ i5 CPU 760 @ 2.80GHz
Memoire 8 Go but 16 would be better
1 To HD

And we have a dedicated Apache server for query.

For bandwidth and average traffic only Acidounet can answer but with 2000 unique visitors /day and almost 7Go of downloads/day, you can have a little idea of necessary bandwidth.

Posted by: Ganryu 05/03/2015 - 21:11:06

Hello there. I apologize if this seems a bit out of place, but I happen to be a user from another site called http://www.gamebanana.com/ (some of you may have heard of the site), and I have a small proposition for you folks over here at 17Buddies. Although I'm not part of the administration team there, I would like to at least bring it to this site's attention that GameBanana has more than enough space to handle all of the content currently provided by this site, so the content provided here could be migrated over there in the event that 17Buddies is no longer accessible. Should 17Buddies go down after April 20th, I am more than willing to assist with uploading the content from this site over there in order to ensure that the content remains accessible to everyone, and I might even be able to get a few other members to assist with migrating the content over there as well.

Posted by: LiveWire 05/03/2015 - 21:22:05

QUOTE (Chapo @ 05/03/2015 - 12:45:07) *
So it must be a free solution or someone else must pay for the server wink.gif


I`m sure some of us won`t mind donating a little each month if a cheap server and admin can be found.

Posted by: Chapo 05/03/2015 - 22:25:20

LiveWire=> I know that , and you're one of our best donators. But donations are not regular income and are subject to variations that are not acceptable to rent a server.

Ganryu => 17b will never be given to Gb for multiple reasons. But, be sure that if we don't find a solution with a web server and a website, all 17b's maps will still remain accessible to everyone.

We are the HL memory and we always will. We will continue to make available our maps to the gaming community.

Posted by: Ganryu 06/03/2015 - 01:47:06

Fair enough. I just thought I'd propose the idea of posting the maps there as well when I heard about this site possibly going down, but I'll leave just leave it at that. Take care, and good luck.

Posted by: Sajin Gaming 06/03/2015 - 07:39:03

I've been afraid of increasing of data and traffic cause trouble for 17buddies.

Suggestions

1.Separate maps for HL1(Goldsrc) based games from later engine based one.Maps for Goldsrc are basically small size and later ones are very big.Archive of old maps is very precious,people can get newer ones everywhere.
2.Replace duplicate map with redirection.If there are same map,ideally binary equal,you should replace maps which derived from original with link to it.
3.Delete extremely low quality map.17buddies contains many low quality maps.Many of them are nearly worthless.However,I think deleting need significant vote of multiple higher level users.
4.Get rid common files from each archive. ex:as_riverside.wad,as_tundra.wad

Posted by: Spirit_12 06/03/2015 - 09:07:52

Why won't you incorporate advertisements to get some revenue? Google Adsense or Chikita are worth a try at the very least.

GameBanana does it, so does gamemaps. Don't see any reason, not to incorporate ads, if they keep this ship afloat.

Posted by: spy-warrior 06/03/2015 - 09:20:25

sad.gif
send PM message pirvate

Posted by: Michl 06/03/2015 - 17:28:23

@ chapo, take a look at http://www.kimsufi.com/fr/ for cheap Dedicated Servers

KS-3
Core™ i5-750
4c / 4t
2.67 GHz+
16 Go Ram
2 To Discspace
100 Mbps

14,99 €

Posted by: Pablo Martinez Rossi 06/03/2015 - 18:41:36

QUOTE (Chapo @ 03/03/2015 - 17:28:17) *
The next April 20 17Buddies will close. The server on which the site is hosted will not be renewed and without any alternative, we can not continue to provide the CS maps as we have done for over 11 fantastic years. It was a great adventure, but it will stop here. Our only option for continuing is to find free php/mysql hosting server able to accommodate 400GB of maps and support 2,000 users/day. If you think you have a solution or that you can help 17Buddies, please post in this topic urgently.





Le 20 avril prochain, 17Buddies va cesser d'exister. Le serveur sur lequel nous sommes hébergés ne sera pas renouvelé et sans autre solution nous ne pourrons pas continuer à vous fournir les maps CS comme nous l'avons fait pendant ces fantastiques 11 dernières années. La seule solution pour pouvoir continuer est de trouver un serveur php/mysql gratuit capable d'acceuillir les 400Go de maps CS et de supporter nos 2000 visiteurs uniques quotidiens. Si vous pensez avoir une solution qui puisse nous aider, merci de poster rapidement dans ce topic.

I have an idea, let's start to download all the maps that we can site and then post them on other pages of maps counter strike

Posted by: Michl 06/03/2015 - 18:59:31

This is no Solution. 17Buddies need a cheap Server to keep the service upright.

Posted by: S3B 07/03/2015 - 08:00:05

QUOTE
Our only option for continuing is to find free php/mysql hosting server able to accommodate 400GB of maps and support 2,000 users/day. If you think you have a ....


Other options are not allowed wink.gif

Posted by: Sajin Gaming 07/03/2015 - 08:02:56

I'm willing to donate 17B up to fully one month charge if you continue site in some form,but all 3 methods don't accept from my country.Anyway,you should not host CS:GO maps.

Posted by: Ch40$ 07/03/2015 - 08:24:18

hey, in Germany is there a Sponsoring-Forum for Root and Gameserver ! http://www.sponsor-board.de/
not in France ?
here my Root wink.gif http://maps.old-school-boys.de/maps/ for dod and dod:s maps is enough GB .

Posted by: recondesprayer 08/03/2015 - 15:31:14

Chapo, I'm working on something and I think we may be able to take over your site with all the qualifications you require. Let me get back to you as soon as I get a response from my provider.

Posted by: Poldyaev 08/03/2015 - 20:22:21

Hello Chapo, please contact root@multiplay.ru. They are can provide you all necessary resources.

Posted by: Chapo 08/03/2015 - 22:42:08

Please:

. Don't post links to paying providers. This does not suit us.
. Don't post links to payed servers, for limited time. This does not suit either.
. Send a copy to your PM to S3B (I'm not often there)
. I will prefer a solution where someone continue to maintain website (and that it committed for years) and where I help him to transfert the site and database.

icon_jap.gif

Posted by: Poldyaev 09/03/2015 - 13:57:06

Chapo also there another person ready to provide the following resources:
2TB and Internet channel 1 Gbit / s. His contacts admin@x2k.ru
The same is also true the sentence above.

Posted by: Chapo 09/03/2015 - 17:56:54

@everyone.

For convenience, I would prefer to keep 17B in france, with a french admin (better for understanding).

But if we have no other solution, I will accept foreign admin with pleasure.

Posted by: Chapo 09/03/2015 - 18:07:48

Details of disk usage:

Maps:
. hl1: 98Go
. hl2: 214 Go
. csgo: 38 Go

Screens (screens+thumbs+backup):
. hl1: 5.40 Go
. hl2: 4.82 Mo
. csgo: 360 Mo

Wads:
. hl1: 9Go

Models:
. hl1: 550 Mo

Misc Screenshots other than mainscreens:
10 Go

wwwroot (code+templates+graphics):
. 90Mo

forum (code+templates+graphics):
. 70Mo


mySQL:
. 17b2: 430Mo
. Forum: 295Mo (with members table)
. Misc: 5Mo


Enjoy icon_jap.gif

Posted by: GameBanana 09/03/2015 - 18:22:02

Hi Chapo, it's Jon Higgins here from GameBanana.

I know you have previously stated that 17B would never be given to us, however it would be a great shame to loose a site like yours and I am sure many people would miss it.

It would probably be too hard for us to buy 17buddies as we are very busy with our current websites, as well as legal issues surrounding your ported content. However if you or the staff here are interested in continuing to run the site we may be able to take over the technical and monetary side of 17B by hosting it on one of our 10 high end servers. Thus allowing you guys to focus all your time on the community.

Alternatively if you no longer want to work on the site we would be interested to buy the database and files off you for a one off lump sum.

If there is anything we can do to help you guys out, or if you have any other propositions please let us know either on here or by sending an email to Jon@machinefloor.com.

Posted by: S3B 09/03/2015 - 18:29:18

Hi icon_kimouss.gif and icon_jap.gif

Posted by: Chapo 09/03/2015 - 18:37:40

Thank you Jon,

I'd never have thought reading such a message one day, but I'm truly touched by your message. icon_ami.gif

We will consider your proposal with all team members.

Best regards,

Posted by: Wroy 09/03/2015 - 19:38:01

QUOTE (Chapo @ 03/03/2015 - 16:28:17) *
The next April 20 17Buddies will close. The server on which the site is hosted will not be renewed and without any alternative, we can not continue to provide the CS maps as we have done for over 11 fantastic years. It was a great adventure, but it will stop here. Our only option for continuing is to find free php/mysql hosting server able to accommodate 400GB of maps and support 2,000 users/day. If you think you have a solution or that you can help 17Buddies, please post in this topic urgently.


Hi, I think that we can help.. we can offer dedicated server with 2x2TB raid (france location)
if you are interested, we can continue on email or here on pm wink.gif

p.s. offer is from game hosting, that exist over 8 years wink.gif

Posted by: recon 09/03/2015 - 22:03:50

Chapo, our hosting is with unlimited domains, bandwidth, transfer (GB), MySQL databases and disk space (GB) and currently we are allowed website connections of 50 at a time which translates to 1200 a day, but we can increase that to 2400 a day. We can do a sub domain with ftp access free to 17buddies. If this fits your needs contact me at hellskitchen_dod@yahoo.com. I hate to lose such a resource as you have provided over the years. Let's not let this site die.

Posted by: soja 10/03/2015 - 05:21:48

Chapo, I manage servers for a very large gaming community. When it comes to community resources like yours, I want to keep as many resources available as possible. We have a pretty considerable amount of resources available due to our size. I would be interested in re-hosting your site as a copy, if you have a team willing to admin for it. I have used this website for downloads before, but I have not been an active community member, so I understand if you may have concerns.

Please contact me at the email I registered with my forum profile if you are interested.

Thanks, SoJa.
http://gflclan.com/

Posted by: recondesprayer 12/03/2015 - 07:27:19

QUOTE (GameBanana @ 09/03/2015 - 10:22:02) *
Hi Chapo, it's Jon Higgins here from GameBanana.

I know you have previously stated that 17B would never be given to us, however it would be a great shame to loose a site like yours and I am sure many people would miss it.

It would probably be too hard for us to buy 17buddies as we are very busy with our current websites, as well as legal issues surrounding your ported content. However if you or the staff here are interested in continuing to run the site we may be able to take over the technical and monetary side of 17B by hosting it on one of our 10 high end servers. Thus allowing you guys to focus all your time on the community.

Alternatively if you no longer want to work on the site we would be interested to buy the database and files off you for a one off lump sum.

If there is anything we can do to help you guys out, or if you have any other propositions please let us know either on here or by sending an email to Jon@machinefloor.com.



Hey Jon, if you control anything over at gamebanana maybe you can explain why there is no longer DoD 1.3 listed in you game drop down list.

Posted by: benneb 12/03/2015 - 18:20:04

bye.gif

thx all for your comments and proposals

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Posted by: Poldyaev 12/03/2015 - 18:20:46

Chapo, there is another proposal to allocate resources under 17B in such locations: France, Germany, the Netherlands and Russia. Contact bormutov@bk.ru
I simply transfer existing proposals received in our community (http://c-s.net.ua/forum/topic71856.html)

Posted by: tizu 12/03/2015 - 18:45:45

Poldyaev, how can we sort out what you guys talk there in that community? We're not rusian speakers and that page is secured and it cannot be translated.

Posted by: Archangel 12/03/2015 - 18:53:30

QUOTE (tizu @ 12/03/2015 - 20:45:45) *
Poldyaev, how can we sort out what you guys talk there in that community? We're not rusian speakers and that page is secured and it cannot be translated.

Is wonderful there understand English

Posted by: EatingPizza 14/03/2015 - 07:31:42

Is it possible to keep the same current host (OVH) if donations increase?

Posted by: Chapo 14/03/2015 - 07:58:51

For https://www.ovh.com/fr/hebergement-web/hebergement-performance.xml , OVH proposes servers at 12€ / month (144 € / year).

https://www.ovh.com/fr/serveurs_dedies/hosting/2014-HOST-32.xml is more than 98 € / month ( 1176 € /year)

We can't rely solely on donations to pay such a server, although we occasionally have members like you who make huge donations ami2.gif

The future server will be necessarily less efficient than the one we have now.

Numerous functionalities will necessarily be removed for the new server to host the site without being too slow. icon_neutral.gif

Posted by: recondesprayer 14/03/2015 - 11:46:10

We don't want to lose this resource so has there been any firm decision as to what will happen with 17buddies? Also, I would be willing to admin or co-admin for the site if you needed someone.

Posted by: Devout 14/03/2015 - 15:09:00

Дайте ссылку то на весь архив хоть на торренты зальём)

Posted by: Michl 14/03/2015 - 18:06:01

My Server provider is a OVH reseller. I can buy the KS1/3 Server for yearly 90,-(or)270,- Euro. I pay with Paysafecard or Bitcoin ..
Are the resources enough?

2 Go Ram
500 Go Space
100 MB Bandwich

90,- Euro/Year

or

16 Go Ram
2 To Space
100 MB Bandwich

270,- Euro/Year

http://tinyurl.com/kec3bqx -> Shop, --> Server scroll down to Kimsufi ..

Posted by: Chapo 14/03/2015 - 18:34:15

Seems interesting Michl felicitation.gif

Posted by: Chapo 14/03/2015 - 18:41:03

Query server and Random maps scripts will be stopped soon. icon_jap.gif

Too much resources consumers and need another server.

Posted by: Michl 14/03/2015 - 18:49:58

ouch .. bad .. sad.gif

Posted by: Chapo 14/03/2015 - 19:13:28

Gametracker does almost same thing now wink.gif

Posted by: Michl 14/03/2015 - 23:26:16

Thank you Pizza icon_ami.gif

I Bought almost a server .. icon_jap.gif

Posted by: Chapo 17/03/2015 - 07:39:38

Report of previous header:

17Buddies will not die with the help of EatingPizza who provided the funds for the lease of a new server and so we will be able to migrate prior to 20 April. The whole community 17Buddies thanks EatingPizza for his help and involvement in the future of the site.
We also thank all those who in one way or another, showed their support through their messages and their solutions. This truly warms our heart.
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17Buddies ne va pas mourir grâce à l'aide de EatingPizza qui a fourni les fonds pour la location d'un nouveau serveur et nous allons donc pouvoir migrer avant le 20 Avril prochain. Toute la communauté 17Buddies remercie EatingPizza pour son aide et son implication dans l'avenir du site.
Nous remercions aussi tous ceux qui, d'une façon ou d'une autre, nous ont témoigné leur soutien par leurs messages et leur recherche de solutions. Cela nous a sincèrement fait chaud au coeur.

Posted by: benneb 17/03/2015 - 22:11:31

thx also to Safety1st icon_kimouss.gif

Posted by: Chapo 14/04/2015 - 13:00:19

Transfering all datas to new server. Meanwhile all uploads are blocked until the new server is operational.

Of course, you can still downloads maps.

Thank you for your understanding ...

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Les fichiers sont en cours de transfert sur le nouveau serveur. Pendant ce temps, tous les uploads sont neutralisés jusqu'à ce que le nouveau serveur soit opérationnel.

Vous pouvez bien sûr continuer à télécharger nos maps.

Merci de votre compréhension.

icon_jap.gif

Posted by: gunzn 14/04/2015 - 19:42:48

i visit 17buddies almost everyday and my fovorite map sorce. i am cs 1.6 server manager from 5 years, i am sad to hear that 17buddies.net will close... i use blue host for my web host +fast download yearly i pay 120 $ and i wont coplaint for my host, cheap and it gives unlimited bandwith and storage.

Posted by: recondesprayer 14/04/2015 - 22:19:03

Gunzn, read the post above yours.

Posted by: Ch40$ 17/04/2015 - 09:00:33

Day 3 and can not uploading icon_cry.gif
when can we again uploading maps ?

Greating Ch40$

Posted by: Plictis 17/04/2015 - 11:12:07

lol Ch40$

Posted by: erwin-sk007 17/04/2015 - 13:37:53

cu Team 17buddies

erwin

Posted by: Chapo 17/04/2015 - 14:16:01

QUOTE (Ch40$ @ 17/04/2015 - 10:00:33) *
Day 3 and can not uploading icon_cry.gif
when can we again uploading maps ?

Greating Ch40$



After web site will be transfered. Some days ... ;)

Posted by: Chapo 20/04/2015 - 22:02:48

Uploads allowed for some time wink.gif

Posted by: Safety1st 22/04/2015 - 01:00:53

But uploading works too slow. I waited a few minutes to upload 5 MB archive. And after success there was additional unexpected message:


Posted by: Ch40$ 22/04/2015 - 07:05:57

normaly upload but this message hum.gif

Posted by: Chapo 22/04/2015 - 20:21:15

It's a javascript alert code i use sometimes to debug my scripts. It seems i forgot to remove one....

Do you remember exactly when it occured ?

Posted by: Ch40$ 23/04/2015 - 06:55:44

http://www.fotos-hochladen.net
after upload rar

Posted by: Chapo 24/04/2015 - 08:21:01

I Think it's fixed wink.gif

Posted by: warning 05/06/2015 - 23:53:59

so no more 17buddies?
the site is going offline?
does that mean all your thousands of maps will be gone?

Posted by: S3B 06/06/2015 - 06:13:22

QUOTE
the site is going offline?
NO !

wink.gif

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